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Paw paws for chickens

Chickens in the woods

If I'm going to make a habit of running our chickens in the woods in the winter, it makes sense to gently mold the woods to meet their needs better.  With that idea in the front of my mind (and since the chickens spent the weekend scratching around in the paw paw patch), I started pondering how to get my paw paws to bear fruit.

For those of you unfamiliar with the species, the paw paw is a small wild tree that produce large fruits in the late fall.  They love floodplains, which means I have a couple of patches growing wild on my property, but I've never seen a fruit on my land.

I suspect there may be two problems involved.  The first one is the easiest solved --- light.  Our paw paws are growing in the understory of the forest, where they have plenty of light to produce leaves but perhaps not enough to make fruit.  I suspect that if we cut down a box elder or two, our paw paws could soak up more sun and maybe grow more vigorously.
Dust bath
The second problem is thornier.  Paw paws are clonal plants, which means that new trees can pop up from the roots of nearby trees and that a small paw paw patch like mine is likely really just one individual.  You need two different individuals to get pollination, so I might need to plant some paw paw seeds to add a bit more variety to the mix.

It's probably worth jumping through a few hoops to get our paw paws to produce because I'm pretty sure our chickens would love them (and the insects that would be attracted to the sweet flesh.)  Meanwhile, our flock is simply enjoying the diverse landscape of the paw paw patch, where they find grass seeds to nibble on and dry spots like this to turn into a dust bath.

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I've read a little about pawpaw (we dont know much about it in Europe), but it seems that if you want good yields, you need to hand pollinate it

BTW excellent blog, i plan myself to design a chicken fodder the permaculture way.

Comment by Permaguy in the wee hours of Saturday night, January 8th, 2012

Paw paws are native here, though, which makes me think that they should set pretty good yields on their own if you get the conditions right. But we might not have figured out those conditions yet....

As an addendum to this post, I read in Harvey Ussery's new book that he's tried feeding paw paws to his chickens and they weren't interested. However, he does think paw paws have a place since his black soldier flies love them.

I'll look forward to hearing about your chicken pasture system!

Comment by anna late Sunday evening, January 8th, 2012

The hand pollination was adviced for North America too, it seems pawpaw is a lazy tree on fruit, cause it propagates by suckers.

BTW, pawpaw trees are so expensive to buy here, and it seems so hard to sow and graft that i think i'll never give a pawpaw to chicken :)

Comment by Permaguy late Sunday night, January 9th, 2012






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